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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jun 2010 05:17:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry to say to the Swedes who have designed magazines like they have jumped ship over one another, they haven&#039;t done enough homework on releasing YET another publication. They say that they wanted to create something more in-depth yet its filled with so many advertisers, predictable art-direction and not big enough interviews. I can&#039;t believe people can get away so easily with publishing, how they have a contact list of go-to people and spend money like rain. Industrie is another polluting magazine. Why didn&#039;t they pour their own money into a fully-fledged magazine? Readers should rally a revolt against all naive publishers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry to say to the Swedes who have designed magazines like they have jumped ship over one another, they haven&#8217;t done enough homework on releasing YET another publication. They say that they wanted to create something more in-depth yet its filled with so many advertisers, predictable art-direction and not big enough interviews. I can&#8217;t believe people can get away so easily with publishing, how they have a contact list of go-to people and spend money like rain. Industrie is another polluting magazine. Why didn&#8217;t they pour their own money into a fully-fledged magazine? Readers should rally a revolt against all naive publishers.</p>
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		<title>By: rollergirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>rollergirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 May 2010 14:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had no idea about the Google image censorship stuff. Crikey. Although my understanding of the Tavi situation was that it was a Google error.

The fashion industry may be opening up but the core of it is still very much an &#039;insider&#039; industry. I can see Industrie having a far bigger reach than their suggested 15,000 as readers try to satisfy their appetite for industry-insider knowledge. 

Incidentally, to the person who mentioned Self Service, I adore their interviews but noticed in the latest issue that they were amiss?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had no idea about the Google image censorship stuff. Crikey. Although my understanding of the Tavi situation was that it was a Google error.</p>
<p>The fashion industry may be opening up but the core of it is still very much an &#8216;insider&#8217; industry. I can see Industrie having a far bigger reach than their suggested 15,000 as readers try to satisfy their appetite for industry-insider knowledge. </p>
<p>Incidentally, to the person who mentioned Self Service, I adore their interviews but noticed in the latest issue that they were amiss?</p>
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		<title>By: steve Banks</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve Banks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 17:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The art direction looks great. Super photographs. All the best on your journey</description>
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		<title>By: Imran Amed, Editor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Imran Amed, Editor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 20:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Anne very much for taking the time to pass on that warning. I take this threat from Google seriously and think it is best to remove the nude Daria photo, lest BoF be sent to purgatory as well. Having had issues with Google in the past, and knowing how important search is for traffic, this is the best course of action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Anne very much for taking the time to pass on that warning. I take this threat from Google seriously and think it is best to remove the nude Daria photo, lest BoF be sent to purgatory as well. Having had issues with Google in the past, and knowing how important search is for traffic, this is the best course of action.</p>
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		<title>By: L Anne Enke</title>
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		<dc:creator>L Anne Enke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 19:58:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry this is so long. No need to post it, but I think the topic is important and relevant to this first issue of Industrie. Perhaps you can post it in another way at another time. 

I notice that you lead with the &#039;How to Look Good Naked&#039; editorial.  The topic is personal for me, because I&#039;m trying to get out of Google Images safe search jail, meaning that I&#039;ve lost over 60,000 new uniques in the month of April for showing the LOVE magazine nudes and also the Louis Vuitton Elle Turkey photos from Dec./Jan. 

Probably 40 photos out of 6000 could put me out of  circulation when we were building 30-50% a month. 

Presumably I will prevail in being restored to moderate search status -- after putting the photos on a separate website -- but this very strong nudity trend among brands and traditional media puts Google Images in the very Kafkaesque position of being probably the most influential censor in the world. 

Even Tavi&#039;s blog came down for a day or two last week, until her Twitter fans took over and got Google&#039;s attention. I believe she had one nude photo. Most of the fashon websites accept the restricted rating without a challenge. The costs are high if you&#039;re a mixed content website as I am. 

If the industry intends to stay on this course of looking more erotic by the month, then leaders must work with Google on some kind of 4th category or paid for stamp of approval. 

Presently, the Industrie photos are lumped right with the pornographers.  If you&#039;re trying to cover the trends and write about sensuality while building a significant traffic base, Google Images is critical for smart bloggers. WSJ reported that 38% of all Google searches recently were in Image. Personally, I use image for almost everything. 

Of course one should be diversified in sources of traffic. Facebook was underdeveloped for us. But Google&#039;s attempts to satisfy parents -- which I understand and support -- are having a chilling effect on the rest of adult web reading. You&#039;re talking an imagesearch traffic drop of 80% of you lose a moderate search rating.

Yes, you can join the forum but dealing with Google Images is the most Kafkaesque experience of my career. For understandable reasons, they don&#039;t want to take firm positions. Few actual rules are posted. Last week, I was told to ask myself &quot;could a mom be upset if her child saw the photos?&quot; 

They do review your situation after you fix the problems, but there&#039;s no guarantee they will talk to you or reinstate you. I LOVE Google, but this is a very chilling situation for Internet content producers who aren&#039;t pornographers. I will post your article, not on any of my websites, but on the subterranean Tumblr blog.  It&#039;s the only place I feel safe writing about the fashion industry right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry this is so long. No need to post it, but I think the topic is important and relevant to this first issue of Industrie. Perhaps you can post it in another way at another time. </p>
<p>I notice that you lead with the &#8216;How to Look Good Naked&#8217; editorial.  The topic is personal for me, because I&#8217;m trying to get out of Google Images safe search jail, meaning that I&#8217;ve lost over 60,000 new uniques in the month of April for showing the LOVE magazine nudes and also the Louis Vuitton Elle Turkey photos from Dec./Jan. </p>
<p>Probably 40 photos out of 6000 could put me out of  circulation when we were building 30-50% a month. </p>
<p>Presumably I will prevail in being restored to moderate search status &#8212; after putting the photos on a separate website &#8212; but this very strong nudity trend among brands and traditional media puts Google Images in the very Kafkaesque position of being probably the most influential censor in the world. </p>
<p>Even Tavi&#8217;s blog came down for a day or two last week, until her Twitter fans took over and got Google&#8217;s attention. I believe she had one nude photo. Most of the fashon websites accept the restricted rating without a challenge. The costs are high if you&#8217;re a mixed content website as I am. </p>
<p>If the industry intends to stay on this course of looking more erotic by the month, then leaders must work with Google on some kind of 4th category or paid for stamp of approval. </p>
<p>Presently, the Industrie photos are lumped right with the pornographers.  If you&#8217;re trying to cover the trends and write about sensuality while building a significant traffic base, Google Images is critical for smart bloggers. WSJ reported that 38% of all Google searches recently were in Image. Personally, I use image for almost everything. </p>
<p>Of course one should be diversified in sources of traffic. Facebook was underdeveloped for us. But Google&#8217;s attempts to satisfy parents &#8212; which I understand and support &#8212; are having a chilling effect on the rest of adult web reading. You&#8217;re talking an imagesearch traffic drop of 80% of you lose a moderate search rating.</p>
<p>Yes, you can join the forum but dealing with Google Images is the most Kafkaesque experience of my career. For understandable reasons, they don&#8217;t want to take firm positions. Few actual rules are posted. Last week, I was told to ask myself &#8220;could a mom be upset if her child saw the photos?&#8221; </p>
<p>They do review your situation after you fix the problems, but there&#8217;s no guarantee they will talk to you or reinstate you. I LOVE Google, but this is a very chilling situation for Internet content producers who aren&#8217;t pornographers. I will post your article, not on any of my websites, but on the subterranean Tumblr blog.  It&#8217;s the only place I feel safe writing about the fashion industry right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Jacovides, BBH</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Jacovides, BBH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 13:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looking to forward to reading this, but it&#039;s not the only magazine that interviews figures from within the fashion industry, or indeed discusses the culture of fashion. Hasn&#039;t the Parisian agency Work in Progress being doing the rather charmingly and honestly entitled magazine Self Service for years?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looking to forward to reading this, but it&#8217;s not the only magazine that interviews figures from within the fashion industry, or indeed discusses the culture of fashion. Hasn&#8217;t the Parisian agency Work in Progress being doing the rather charmingly and honestly entitled magazine Self Service for years?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 23:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can we order it online? Where will it be available??</description>
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		<title>By: David Royce</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Royce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 May 2010 16:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice interview, but too short. You never get into their backgrounds which raises a lot of questions. Since Erik &amp; Jens own the Saturday Group which is a fashion PR/MARKETING/SALES organisation it will be interesting to see how many of their clients find their way into the magazine. Why is this interesting? Because they are now on the record in this interview as railing against the lack of integrity of the current crop of fashion magazines. They rightly point out that fashion magazines have become boring because in order to survive they must feature their advertisers in &quot;editorial&quot; or possibly face losing the client. Now that Erik &amp; Jens have their own platform, let&#039;s see what they do with it vis a vis promoting their own clients.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice interview, but too short. You never get into their backgrounds which raises a lot of questions. Since Erik &amp; Jens own the Saturday Group which is a fashion PR/MARKETING/SALES organisation it will be interesting to see how many of their clients find their way into the magazine. Why is this interesting? Because they are now on the record in this interview as railing against the lack of integrity of the current crop of fashion magazines. They rightly point out that fashion magazines have become boring because in order to survive they must feature their advertisers in &#8220;editorial&#8221; or possibly face losing the client. Now that Erik &amp; Jens have their own platform, let&#8217;s see what they do with it vis a vis promoting their own clients.</p>
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