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		<title>By: Po Zu Ethical Footwear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Po Zu Ethical Footwear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Oct 2010 08:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some really interesting points. There is still alot of confusion about what sustainability actually is and there is plenty of green washing going on. Whilst there is plenty of options in the luxury/ high end fashion, there is still a long way to go with the more affordable and high street fashion. There needs to be a change in attitude to value quality and well made clothes that will last but these clothes need to be available and affordable by all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some really interesting points. There is still alot of confusion about what sustainability actually is and there is plenty of green washing going on. Whilst there is plenty of options in the luxury/ high end fashion, there is still a long way to go with the more affordable and high street fashion. There needs to be a change in attitude to value quality and well made clothes that will last but these clothes need to be available and affordable by all.</p>
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		<title>By: cathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2010 20:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t believe there is a problem with the environment.  The green politics is just another way to control people with fear and guilt.  The problem with the world around us is that we care so little about each human being that the environment is just a reflection of that.  In order to clean up the environment people need to clear up their lives.  Get off drugs and alcohol and get involved with life and all the goodness it can offer.  Give thanks to God for everything we have and take care of those you love.  If fashion is a statement of beauty then we should celebrate it.  Beauty is not only in the eye of the beholder it is a universal truth, that radiates light to those who choose to show it and those that choose to see it. By the way the photography was beautiful.  If the industry wants to sell fashion attached to the Green concept then it has to be genuine and not just another way to make money.  Its genuine approach will be fresh and will sell.  Don&#039;t neglect the age group that approaches the end of life, or the poor, or the homeless, the handicapped, or the hardworking middleclass. Perfection in spirit as well the physical has universal appeal.  There is beauty in all aspects of our lives.  Bring it out for people to see.  Theres a challenge!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t believe there is a problem with the environment.  The green politics is just another way to control people with fear and guilt.  The problem with the world around us is that we care so little about each human being that the environment is just a reflection of that.  In order to clean up the environment people need to clear up their lives.  Get off drugs and alcohol and get involved with life and all the goodness it can offer.  Give thanks to God for everything we have and take care of those you love.  If fashion is a statement of beauty then we should celebrate it.  Beauty is not only in the eye of the beholder it is a universal truth, that radiates light to those who choose to show it and those that choose to see it. By the way the photography was beautiful.  If the industry wants to sell fashion attached to the Green concept then it has to be genuine and not just another way to make money.  Its genuine approach will be fresh and will sell.  Don&#8217;t neglect the age group that approaches the end of life, or the poor, or the homeless, the handicapped, or the hardworking middleclass. Perfection in spirit as well the physical has universal appeal.  There is beauty in all aspects of our lives.  Bring it out for people to see.  Theres a challenge!</p>
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		<title>By: Gerard Willing</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gerard Willing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, great comments. Love this blog! Just subscribed. Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, great comments. Love this blog! Just subscribed. Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Tocoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jul 2010 01:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do you think Tungesten jewellery is fashionable?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you think Tungesten jewellery is fashionable?</p>
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		<title>By: Tocoy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tocoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 01:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent!</description>
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		<title>By: Laura Wehrman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Wehrman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I owned and operated a small yet very visionary consulting and sourcing business in NYC for 2 years called Tela Verde, where I offered only fabrics, trims, notions and even services for designers, fashion and interior, that were produced or executed in a sustainable manner. Some were made by larger mills and manufacturers that were certified by GOTS and other international organizations. Some were made by small coops that through their profits, would elevate the lives of the producers, usually women. Some were produced within 100 miles of NYC. I had dyers from 175 year old indigo houses in Japan and I had dyers from Ghana that lived in Harlem that would hand dye in the kitchen. It was the first firm of it&#039;s kind in the US and definitely in NYC. I traveled extensively, looking for and visiting people who were creating things with the higher mission of a lighter footprint on the earth. I was contacted by and worked with some amazing designers and companies. Many would be recognized on an international level by even non-fashion people. I was even interviewed and spoke at conferences. It was an amazing opportunity that I will cherish always. The serious economic downturn made it difficult for me to continue and I closed my doors a year ago. 

One of the recurring negative issues that nagged at me was the fact that fashion, as a concept, is about the what&#039;s new and what&#039;s next; even in simpler times, pre-Internet. That is in direct conflict with the sustainable concept of consuming less. Nowadays, the fashion business is a multi-billion dollar industry that is solely based on what&#039;s new and what&#039;s next. Slowing down of consumer purchasing would have a serious effect on the bottom line of every company. I cannot imagine that any stockholder or CEO would be happy with that effect. Embracing sustainability as an industry wide practice is completely antithetical to the core value of the entire business: making money and lot of it based on perceived need for the continual desire for something new. The industry is not going to embrace something that, if implemented, could spell the end of  the fashion business as we know it. That was a bitter pill for me to swallow, as someone working in that business. 

It used to be that designers put out Spring/Summer and Fall/Winter collections, 2 a year. Now there are so many &quot;seasons&quot; and we are continually bombarded with something new. I love the very old school European idea of saving to buy an amazing pair of shoes, bag or what have you and having it be timeless and wear it until. My personal style heroes are people who seemed to live that idea. 

So if everyone who pays attention to fashion or even a casual observer were to just stop shopping, the industry would grind to a halt and the out of control consumption would stop. Great, right? Wrong. The other side of the above point is that we have millions of people employed worldwide by manufacturers and any other facet of fashion garment and accessory production. A great many of these folks are gainfully employed and not being exploited. They are just workers who need their jobs. So if a crazy business like fashion starts to slow down and layoffs happen, people lose their jobs and their ability to support their families. 

Slowing down an out of  control business that wreaks such havoc environmentally and many other ways or have massive layoffs and factory closings that result in job loss, quality of life loss for individuals and even set backs in development for emerging countries? It is a horrible Catch-22 to which there is no easy answer. I try to buy my clothing with conscience as best I can. 

I love fashion and love smaller and unique designers. Production for them is done locally in many cases and you are supporting smaller companies with local workers. I buy a lot of vintage. Great stuff is timeless and unique and it already exists. I try and think about everything I buy from not just a desire based point of view but what brought it to be for sale in front of me. I like Ms. Starbucks&#039;s distinctions (read her thoughts in detail at her website) and the points she brings up. There is no standard and I&#039;m not sure how there can really be. 

When I was sourcing, I just tried to find beautiful and amazing stuff that no one had ever seen and have it be from companies that I felt had a greater mission than just profitability. There are some amazing people out there in the world!!! It&#039;s a very serious and complicated issue that has no set answer but keeping a dialogue open and not being afraid to admit faults so that they can be addressed and changed is key. So is transparency in information and intent.

Thanks, Laura</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I owned and operated a small yet very visionary consulting and sourcing business in NYC for 2 years called Tela Verde, where I offered only fabrics, trims, notions and even services for designers, fashion and interior, that were produced or executed in a sustainable manner. Some were made by larger mills and manufacturers that were certified by GOTS and other international organizations. Some were made by small coops that through their profits, would elevate the lives of the producers, usually women. Some were produced within 100 miles of NYC. I had dyers from 175 year old indigo houses in Japan and I had dyers from Ghana that lived in Harlem that would hand dye in the kitchen. It was the first firm of it&#8217;s kind in the US and definitely in NYC. I traveled extensively, looking for and visiting people who were creating things with the higher mission of a lighter footprint on the earth. I was contacted by and worked with some amazing designers and companies. Many would be recognized on an international level by even non-fashion people. I was even interviewed and spoke at conferences. It was an amazing opportunity that I will cherish always. The serious economic downturn made it difficult for me to continue and I closed my doors a year ago. </p>
<p>One of the recurring negative issues that nagged at me was the fact that fashion, as a concept, is about the what&#8217;s new and what&#8217;s next; even in simpler times, pre-Internet. That is in direct conflict with the sustainable concept of consuming less. Nowadays, the fashion business is a multi-billion dollar industry that is solely based on what&#8217;s new and what&#8217;s next. Slowing down of consumer purchasing would have a serious effect on the bottom line of every company. I cannot imagine that any stockholder or CEO would be happy with that effect. Embracing sustainability as an industry wide practice is completely antithetical to the core value of the entire business: making money and lot of it based on perceived need for the continual desire for something new. The industry is not going to embrace something that, if implemented, could spell the end of  the fashion business as we know it. That was a bitter pill for me to swallow, as someone working in that business. </p>
<p>It used to be that designers put out Spring/Summer and Fall/Winter collections, 2 a year. Now there are so many &#8220;seasons&#8221; and we are continually bombarded with something new. I love the very old school European idea of saving to buy an amazing pair of shoes, bag or what have you and having it be timeless and wear it until. My personal style heroes are people who seemed to live that idea. </p>
<p>So if everyone who pays attention to fashion or even a casual observer were to just stop shopping, the industry would grind to a halt and the out of control consumption would stop. Great, right? Wrong. The other side of the above point is that we have millions of people employed worldwide by manufacturers and any other facet of fashion garment and accessory production. A great many of these folks are gainfully employed and not being exploited. They are just workers who need their jobs. So if a crazy business like fashion starts to slow down and layoffs happen, people lose their jobs and their ability to support their families. </p>
<p>Slowing down an out of  control business that wreaks such havoc environmentally and many other ways or have massive layoffs and factory closings that result in job loss, quality of life loss for individuals and even set backs in development for emerging countries? It is a horrible Catch-22 to which there is no easy answer. I try to buy my clothing with conscience as best I can. </p>
<p>I love fashion and love smaller and unique designers. Production for them is done locally in many cases and you are supporting smaller companies with local workers. I buy a lot of vintage. Great stuff is timeless and unique and it already exists. I try and think about everything I buy from not just a desire based point of view but what brought it to be for sale in front of me. I like Ms. Starbucks&#8217;s distinctions (read her thoughts in detail at her website) and the points she brings up. There is no standard and I&#8217;m not sure how there can really be. </p>
<p>When I was sourcing, I just tried to find beautiful and amazing stuff that no one had ever seen and have it be from companies that I felt had a greater mission than just profitability. There are some amazing people out there in the world!!! It&#8217;s a very serious and complicated issue that has no set answer but keeping a dialogue open and not being afraid to admit faults so that they can be addressed and changed is key. So is transparency in information and intent.</p>
<p>Thanks, Laura</p>
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		<title>By: aisha sobh</title>
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		<dc:creator>aisha sobh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 12:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the gigantic dust clout from the growing Gobi desert blows around the world (and can even be seen from space), I do not see cashmere discussed. The demand of American and European consumers for cheap cashmere has created an environmental disaster. I have not seen fashion houses address this, other than a few claiming they have &#039;ethical&#039; cashmere. Yet, is that even possible? What does &#039;ethical&#039; mean in this case, since it is the very demand for this product, and the sheer number of goats grazing away every bit of green left that is creating this mess. Thus, I do not buy cashmere anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the gigantic dust clout from the growing Gobi desert blows around the world (and can even be seen from space), I do not see cashmere discussed. The demand of American and European consumers for cheap cashmere has created an environmental disaster. I have not seen fashion houses address this, other than a few claiming they have &#8216;ethical&#8217; cashmere. Yet, is that even possible? What does &#8216;ethical&#8217; mean in this case, since it is the very demand for this product, and the sheer number of goats grazing away every bit of green left that is creating this mess. Thus, I do not buy cashmere anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: DC Fashion Gal</title>
		<link>http://www.businessoffashion.com/2010/07/in-ethical-fashion-desirability-is-sustainability.html#comment-42532</link>
		<dc:creator>DC Fashion Gal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 20:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  I think Stella McCartney sums it up perfectly in your article when she says, &quot;..I think that women buy my product because they like how it looks, feels, fits and being sustainable is an added extra bonus.”  I agree 100% with this statement.

Along similar lines, I believe that Fashion for a cause has gained more and more interest among consumers, such as T-shirts designed by various clothing designers where a portion of the proceeds goes to fund a certain cause and the FEED bags by Lauren Bush.  

I think it&#039;s wonderful when you can wear a graphic T-shirt that is not only gorgeous in its design but also sends a great message as well.

Cheers and as always, I enjoy reading your insightful articles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  I think Stella McCartney sums it up perfectly in your article when she says, &#8220;..I think that women buy my product because they like how it looks, feels, fits and being sustainable is an added extra bonus.”  I agree 100% with this statement.</p>
<p>Along similar lines, I believe that Fashion for a cause has gained more and more interest among consumers, such as T-shirts designed by various clothing designers where a portion of the proceeds goes to fund a certain cause and the FEED bags by Lauren Bush.  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s wonderful when you can wear a graphic T-shirt that is not only gorgeous in its design but also sends a great message as well.</p>
<p>Cheers and as always, I enjoy reading your insightful articles.</p>
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		<title>By: fabrizio</title>
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		<dc:creator>fabrizio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking that Sustainability is just a new fashion name for marketing description. Client desire is king.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking that Sustainability is just a new fashion name for marketing description. Client desire is king.</p>
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		<title>By: Florian Gonzalez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florian Gonzalez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Superb and concise article. Congrats to BoF and Suleman. For years, I have been saying to brands that improving their sustainability credentials does not require to tag the brand as &quot;eco&quot;, &quot;green&quot; or &quot;ethical&quot;.  Humility and hard work are necessary to make current luxury/fashion business models and supply chains more sustainable. It is very easy to fall into greenwashing when one company presents itself as &quot;eco&quot; just because they have one &quot;eco-collection&quot; or a CSR director... We should serve sustainability more than sustainability serves us, and act more than we speak... As for the sustainable luxury definition, it is not as difficult as one would think, it requires to have a positive impact on people, planet and... profits. The implementation of this 3p definition is obviously complex and long term. http://luxurysociety.com/articles/2009/11/sustainability-and-the-luxury-industry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Superb and concise article. Congrats to BoF and Suleman. For years, I have been saying to brands that improving their sustainability credentials does not require to tag the brand as &#8220;eco&#8221;, &#8220;green&#8221; or &#8220;ethical&#8221;.  Humility and hard work are necessary to make current luxury/fashion business models and supply chains more sustainable. It is very easy to fall into greenwashing when one company presents itself as &#8220;eco&#8221; just because they have one &#8220;eco-collection&#8221; or a CSR director&#8230; We should serve sustainability more than sustainability serves us, and act more than we speak&#8230; As for the sustainable luxury definition, it is not as difficult as one would think, it requires to have a positive impact on people, planet and&#8230; profits. The implementation of this 3p definition is obviously complex and long term. <a href="http://luxurysociety.com/articles/2009/11/sustainability-and-the-luxury-industry" rel="nofollow">http://luxurysociety.com/articles/2009/11/sustainability-and-the-luxury-industry</a></p>
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